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Model Technical and Interest => Delta and Prisma => Topic started by: D200XPN on 17 November, 2018, 01:10:50 PM

Title: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: D200XPN on 17 November, 2018, 01:10:50 PM
Hi all
Been a fan of the Delta for many years, had a GTie & a few HF Turbos when I was younger.  Used to see an HF4WD in local stage rallies, well in 2012 I got the chance to buy it.  A very good friend of mine works at Omicron just outside Norwich & put me on to it, I sold my Escort rally car & got the Delta.  It had been laid up in storage (after breaking an engine mount) from 1996 to 2011 before being shown at the Essen Motor Show in their '100 years of the Monte Carlo Rally' & then being up for sale.  Fair to say it needed a bit of work due to the inactivity & updating to comply with the MSA regs, but it all got done and so I did a couple of stage events before my navigator quit and since then it's been unused in anger as I can't seem to find anyone in the car club interested in navigating!

Anyway some of you may well know of it, I have nearly all its history starting out as a Lancar press demo car.  After 6 months it then passed to a John Gray in Drumnadrochit, Scotland who added the Martini livery & got the original MSA logbook.  He owned it about 18 months & sold to Ian Fraser in Norfolk who had it until I bought it in 2012.  With 'D199 XPN' it was originally one of a pair of white HF4WDs built into semi-rally cars to demonstrate to journalists how proficient the cars were at going off-road in almost standard trim, the rest of the HF4WD press fleet being red road cars.  Lancar had recruited Jimmy McRae and Mikael Ericsson from Martini Racing to do the driving.

In 1987 the cars were used at Bagshot testing ground, in Greystokes in the Lakes and at Glendevon forest in Scotland.  I managed to obtain an autumn 1987 copy of Lancia's own magazine 'The Marque' which had an article about the cars using reprinted articles from 'Motor' and 'Autocar'.  As it stands now I have only got the 'Motor' article, I haven't been able to find which issue of 'Autocar' theirs was printed in.

If anyone knows of any other articles about these 2 cars or which copy of Autocar the report from Michael Harvey was in, please let me know.  If anything of D199 XPN is known I'd be very interested to find out.  It appears on the DVLA enquiry page, but as last taxed in 1989.


Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: Rob on 18 November, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
I've always fancied a Delta HF 4x4 & yours looks spot on. You must be really chuffed with it  ;).

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: Kevinlincs on 18 November, 2018, 11:37:51 PM
Cracking story and car, surprised you struggle to find a co-driver though? Guess it's a finance thing.
I did a bit of passenger seat stuff when I packed in on the drivers side, great fun.  8)

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: sparehead3 on 19 November, 2018, 02:02:25 PM
Great story Mike - and there's a price of 13980 for 1987 which we'll be able to translate into Today's money

Look forward to seeing it sometime !

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: DavidLaver on 19 November, 2018, 03:37:22 PM

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: D200XPN on 22 November, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Thanks all, yes it's a fun car to drive and always gets attention.  Not sure why no-one's keen to take part with me, I've hardly ever crashed - and certainly not this car!

When I used to see it being rallied in the 1990s & then got to own it, it had a different registration (one that I have kept on retention).  Because it has changed appearance with the livery I hadn't realised which car it was originally.  I sent off a V888 to the DVLA & found out from them, so I took the other registration off it & they reissued its original Lancar reg.

I had the Motor magazine already, it's on the cover of Fraser & Fraser's 'Supercar Classics' magazine (along with some of Ian's & other's vastly more valuable Lancias) from December 1989.  Also here's a couple of rallying photos from the 1990s and a couple from 2015.

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: sparehead3 on 23 November, 2018, 11:49:11 AM
Ah, interesting - D57GAS is recorded ( by me in the database ) :

Spotted at 2011 Essen Motor Show, complete with roll cage and slick tires

Recorded by SteveP on 04-01-2013 10:23

.... What I will do is link the two together in our database.

Title: Re: HF4WD ex Lancar press demo
Post by: D200XPN on 24 November, 2018, 07:58:34 PM
The organisers of the 2011 Essen show were arranging a '100 years of the Monte Carlo Rally' exhibition with an example of the winning car for each year displayed.  They obviously needed an HF4WD for 1987/88 & for whatever reason they couldn't get one on mainland Europe. So they got in touch with Omicron on the off-chance they knew of one, which of course they did.  However it had been in storage since 1996 when an engine mount broke, so needed a bit of effort to extract it from the shed it was in & to make presentable.  It was picked up, taken to Essen & then delivered back!