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Model Technical and Interest => Aurelia => Topic started by: Scott on 01 August, 2018, 09:44:59 AM



Title: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Scott on 01 August, 2018, 09:44:59 AM
The August edition of Top Gear magazine includes an additional 'Retro' magazine.

This includes a nice article on this car ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/155137078@N06/42171576852 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/155137078@N06/42171576852) ... written by Jason Barlow titled 'Outlaw' and subtitled 'Take a Fifties Lancia Aurelia, restore, hotrod ... and create an automobile of extreme beauty'.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Scott on 01 August, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
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Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: fay66 on 01 August, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
The August edition of Top Gear magazine includes an additional 'Retro' magazine.

This includes a nice article on this car ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/155137078@N06/42171576852 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/155137078@N06/42171576852) ... written by Jason Barlow titled 'Outlaw' and subtitled 'Take a Fifties Lancia Aurelia, restore, hotrod ... and create an automobile of extreme beauty'.
I always thought is was an Automobile of extreme beauty, each to there own, and while I think this is an interesting exercise, but I prefer the original.
Brian
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Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Niels Jonassen on 08 August, 2018, 04:30:49 PM
I have never been fond of "improvements". I like old cars as pieces of history and want to accept history as it was. It does not matter much if you change a mass produced car, but I am not very happy with rare cars being changed to suit somebody's taste. I think we are custodians of these cars and only temporary owners.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: frankxhv773t on 08 August, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
We had this conversation when it was originally done and as Brian says, each to his own. Thornley Kelham say part of their motivation in accepting the project for their client was raising the profile of Aurelias.

As Giovanni de Virgillio says ""In summary it's a very purposeful and realistic car that Gianni Lancia could have built for a friend".

www.thornleykelham.com/restoration/lancia/1957-lancia-aurelia-b20gt-s6-outlaw-1-project/#ad-image-4


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: GG on 09 August, 2018, 12:11:44 PM
Talked at length with Simon Thornley about this - one of these off a not-so-healthy s.6 (where there are a few around) seems fine - for promotion, ideas, exercise, etc. Its kind of a decent one-off idea, good enough then.

If they become something of a series, then to me that's another question. It would seem hard that one could be a house of verity at the same time making these... although these days, maybe things are that flexible.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Dikappa on 09 August, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
I think it's murder.  But a very well thought out one.  As there are very little aurelia parts used in thes cars, most is flaminia.  So the bonus is quite a harvest of proper aurelia parts, and hopefully they get reused in proper restorations...so there might be a positive side....


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Jaydub on 09 August, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Very much Aston DB4 GT ZAGATO!  Looks stunning from all angles. If it`s not too rare a car and you have the resources, then you can have exclusivity.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: fay66 on 09 August, 2018, 10:33:37 PM
3/4 view from the rear looks very heavy, with the lower body out of proportion to that above the waist line.
not quite so exclusive either now they are making further versions, I wonder how the owner who commissioned this one feels about that?
Brian
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Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: frankxhv773t on 10 August, 2018, 08:53:48 AM
The chopped roof seems to be as per the original Tipo Corsa so any heaviness in the rear 3/4 profile would have precedent.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: GG on 10 August, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
The Corsas have a period elegance - this is something else - more of a new creation. Itís certainly done at high quality with enthusiasm, more of a hot rod, and been popular. Wonder about the Flaminia components and the connection to the period.

Just to clarify - the comment is on the idea of the car, not the execution, as T/K do very fine work.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: chriswgawne on 12 August, 2018, 10:19:22 AM
I was very interested in one of these, had a sort of greenish light from Jacky and had a good look at the build of the first and second....and then I realised that in the UK it would be subject to VAT!
Chris


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: frankxhv773t on 12 August, 2018, 10:07:17 PM
I'm not sure the Top Gear photos haven't been taken in a way that emphasises a heaviness in the rear end. Also I suspect that lipped arches, large wheels and lowered suspension (?) change the effect. The outlaw project was directly based on their restoration of a genuine Corsa but using a late series donor car brings with it different front and rear wing profiles which changes the look.

Here are some pictures as food for thought.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: GG on 12 August, 2018, 11:18:36 PM
All nice cars, but none of them Corsas. The first is a s.1 with a chopped roof, the Strada e Corsa car is a later s.1 also modified. All the true Corsas were broken up, but maybe look at the replicas done c 1990 by Basso. The Corsaís lines are special.


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Sebastien on 06 January, 2019, 06:10:43 PM
Some more Outlaw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVftSjRmgY


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: the.cern on 07 January, 2019, 10:04:50 AM
Thank you  Sebastien, a very informative clip.

I do think this is an interesting comment taken from 'frankxhv773t's post .....

As Giovanni de Virgillio says "In summary it's a very purposeful and realistic car that Gianni Lancia could have built for a friend".

                                  Andy


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Richard Fridd on 07 January, 2019, 12:02:16 PM
Lovely. Does anyone here know where the 'barnfind' photos, shwn in the clip can be found? Octane magazine?


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 07 January, 2019, 01:41:02 PM
Full details on each of the cars can be found here:-

http://www.fuorilegge.co.uk/


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: JohnMillham on 07 January, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
Super photography, too!


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: chriswgawne on 10 January, 2019, 04:19:08 PM
Not wishing to appear pedantic, the Strada e Corsa project car in the earlier photo looks to be a standard S4 B20 and nothing special. However I do believe they have an Aurelia B20 which is a lot more special squirelled away. I haven't seen any photos of it but it was mentioned during a chat at Padova last October.
Can anyone provide any more info or photos?
Chris


Title: Re: Aurelia in Top Gear 'Retro' mag
Post by: GG on 10 January, 2019, 05:33:57 PM
Here's something on B20 1300. Rescued from Mexico.