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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: jonamery on 25 July, 2018, 01:18:15 PM



Title: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: jonamery on 25 July, 2018, 01:18:15 PM
Hello,

I have a couple of questions with regards to an S1 Fulvia coupe if anyone could help?

1. Where would be the best position for a malpassi filter king if using the standard mechanical pump? I did see it may bolt onto the fan bracket but would the vibration from the engine cause problems? The instructions state it should be fitted to the body.

2. Is it possible to change the oil pump without removing the engine, or engine from subframe? It looks very tight if possible.

3. Is there a method of changing the upper and lower ball joint boots without changing the ball joints?
Thanks in advance,

All the best,

Jon


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: lancialulu on 25 July, 2018, 02:11:35 PM
Hi Jon

1. Simon Ingman fitted a small filter king on the inner wing. see photo (credit Simon I)

2. I have removed an oil pump but from memory you need to undo the engine mounts and jack the sump to get clearance. Reengaging can be a challenge as also getting the gasket not to tear...

3. If you have the correct boots you an change once sperated. You may find once separetd you need to change the complete joint as wear is only detectable when joints are not loaded...

Hope that helps



Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: jonamery on 25 July, 2018, 07:21:47 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

I fitted the pump on the inner wing, just a bit lower down on a bracket. Just preparing to fit som twin dellortos now.

All the best,

Jon


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: fay66 on 25 July, 2018, 11:13:16 PM
Hi Jon

1. Simon Ingman fitted a small filter king on the inner wing. see photo (credit Simon I)

2. I have removed an oil pump but from memory you need to undo the engine mounts and jack the sump to get clearance. Reengaging can be a challenge as also getting the gasket not to tear...

3. If you have the correct boots you an change once sperated. You may find once separetd you need to change the complete joint as wear is only detectable when joints are not loaded...

Hope tha


My filter king is fitted in the same place as Simon's, been there for over 10 years without a problem.
A friend is Australia has just sent me a photo of one fitted under the reservoir bolts of the Master Cylinder on a made up bracket, with an additional support, can't say I'm very keen on that myself, but no doubt there was a reason for doing so,I shall ask!
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 26 July, 2018, 08:06:58 AM
Brian

Is your Filter King in line before or after the mechanical pump?


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: chriswgawne on 26 July, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
If the fuel filter is also a pressure regulator which many of them are then it should be downstream of the pump. OE FISPA pumps have a fine filter in their inlet which should pick up any solid particles. I find its easier to clean this filter by removing the pump because of the springs holding the one way valves in position. Also with the pump on the bench, its easy to check the condition of thses one way valves as failure of one of these is the usual case of fuel pump problems in my experience.
If the fuel filter is just a filter then I would say it should be fitted upstream of the pump to filter the fuel before the pump.
Chris


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: fay66 on 16 August, 2018, 11:37:36 PM
Brian

Is your Filter King in line before or after the mechanical pump?
Neil,
It's before the pump, I originally fitted it as I was getting so much rubbish coming through from the tank that an inline filter couldn't cope, besides which I had one with  glass body that persisted in unscrewing itself and leaking.
Never regretted the purchase of the filter king glass bowl version.
Brian
8227   8)


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: davidwheeler on 18 August, 2018, 09:12:55 AM
I have to admit that my Aprilia had a Filter King after the electric pump in the boot and then two inline plastic ones under the bonnet!     Stopped the carbs getting clogged though.


Title: Re: A couple of Fulvia questions
Post by: chriswgawne on 18 August, 2018, 09:39:13 AM
If the rubber boots on the ball joints (or the steering arm joints) need replacing then you should replace the joints as well in my opinion.
As Tim says, wear in these joints is much more easily detected when they are off the car and therefore not under load.
 I can well remember horror stories in the 70's with worn joints popping apart going over hump backed bridges at speed for example.
Just not worth the risk for max 40 per joint.
Chris