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Buy, Sell and Search => Lancia vehicles for sale => Topic started by: SanRemo78 on 11 February, 2018, 10:20:57 AM



Title: Aprilia
Post by: SanRemo78 on 11 February, 2018, 10:20:57 AM
Plenty of interest already!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Aprilia-1939-series-1-model-238-project-restoration-very-rare/173152930023?hash=item2850b808e7:g:OXMAAOSwItJafy5v

no connection to the seller.

Guy


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Angle Grinder on 11 February, 2018, 10:34:00 AM
I've no connection to the seller, but I see that car is in South Ayrshire and so am I. If anyone is seriously interested in the car (it will be out of my price range and my wife would kill me) I could inspect it on your behalf.

I admit that I don't know much about Aprilias, but I can poke and prod for rust and take pictures.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 11 February, 2018, 10:43:25 AM
Lusso model


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 11 February, 2018, 06:33:26 PM
Lusso model
It looks more like a standard saloon, no air vent at the back of the bonnet and round instruments


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 11 February, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
Lusso model
It looks more like a standard saloon, no air vent at the back of the bonnet and round instruments
runnng boards on an S1 = lusso no?


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 12 February, 2018, 07:45:07 AM
The running boards don't look original, they are flat, not curved on their outer edge, so look like they have been added at a later date. The only thing that would be difficult to change would be the air vent at the back of the bonnet. No air vent = standard saloon.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: ColinMarr on 12 February, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
And it has round instruments and not set in a rectangular frame, that I would associate with a Lusso. I thought it was only the very early standard cars that were sold without running boards.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 12 February, 2018, 05:09:14 PM
It is my understanding that early cars had the solid disc wheels and no running boards, later they had the Fergat wheels and running boards (although not necessarily at the same time). When the Lusso was introduced it gained the square instrument set, bonnet fresh air vent, along with running boards and Fergat wheels.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 12 February, 2018, 06:20:27 PM
Well I agree on closer inspection the running boards do look a bit suspect but I have always understood that a Lusso was available in 1st Series 1300cc form with running boards (as Ardenne) and round instruments cf "70 years of Trail blazing" etc. So in this instance it is a homage to .....??


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 13 February, 2018, 08:38:27 AM
Aprilia Lusso always had the square instruments, '70 years of Trail blazing' mentions this in the text.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 13 February, 2018, 11:42:36 AM
Aprilia Lusso always had the square instruments, '70 years of Trail blazing' mentions this in the text.
Sorry to be pedantic but....Page 175 It says the late series cars were identified by the square instruments ... and it also says the second series had running boards only previously offered on the Aprilia Lusso pg 185 spec sheet.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 13 February, 2018, 01:06:31 PM
Being extra pedantic, the full quote from page 175 is:-
"The late series cars were identified by their square-faced instruments, which were a feature of the first series Lusso."
i.e the first series Lusso had square instruments.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 13 February, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
Correct. I should have read more carefully. Substantiated by Wim in La Lancia!


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Cesare Ferrari on 13 February, 2018, 04:22:40 PM
I fear however that one must beware of being too categorical about Aprilia identifying features.
Regarding the dashboard, early standard cars had round instruments in a plain panel and a plain glove box lid. Many cars in this country and in Italy have a version with similar round instruments, an ash tray in the glove box lid like the Lusso as pictured in the reference books, and both surrounded by a bright trim. I wonder if this is not an early version of the Lusso dashboard.
Certainly the Italian Wikipedia article on the Aprilia says that from September 1937 to May 1938 the Lusso mounted the same round black dials as the standard car, the single panel instruments then being introduced.
Cesare


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Dave Gee on 13 February, 2018, 04:34:32 PM
Hopefully in the summer, I am going to start restoring my Aprilia Lusso, 1938 - still hunting for some parts. My question is:
should it or should it not have running boards?

Looking forward to receiving some advice.
Dave


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 13 February, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
If it is a Lusso, so, square instruments and the vent at the back of the bonnet, it should have running boards.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: simonandjuliet on 13 February, 2018, 05:46:49 PM
What does the id plate say ? Often the Lusso's are marked with an "L" after (I think) the model number ie 38 or 238 L



Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Dave Gee on 13 February, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
 
From old registration book chassis type 38/9452  type or model 99

 Dave


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: ColinMarr on 13 February, 2018, 06:29:15 PM
There once was a time when most of the Aprilias one might have come across would have been devoid of running boards, be they Lusso or not. Running boards were seen as a hang-over from an earlier period and best dispensed with! The photo shows my 1939 Lusso in 1968.

Also to mention that the air-scoop at the rear of the bonnet on a Lusso was a clever way to provide a goodly measure of rain water to collect there, so as to dollop on the legs of either driver or passenger, depending on the direction of hard cornering.

Colin


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: SanRemo78 on 13 February, 2018, 07:25:19 PM
Do Aprils without running boards suffer from gravel rash chipping the paint on the sills, doors and leading face of the rear arches? if so then I'd say sod the originality and fit the running boards!
Guy


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: rogerelias on 13 February, 2018, 09:54:00 PM
Dashboards and Running Boards aside, do we all agree that it is green? ::)


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: DavidLaver on 14 February, 2018, 11:31:58 AM

Colin - did you work a fix to the water ingress?   Ever fit a heater or just stop to warm the ladies as and when...?


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: ColinMarr on 14 February, 2018, 08:17:20 PM
David, I think it was just a blocked drain, but it did take me a time to get round to fixing it. I don’t remember not having a heater being much of a problem and I do recall some very severe winters. Similarly, not having screen washers wasn’t a problem either – a ‘squeezy bottle’ with screen-wash that could be squirted sideways through the driver’s window seemed to work OK. As to the ladies, well there was only one and she was a capable Aprilia driver, amongst her other endearing qualities.

Colin


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: DavidLaver on 14 February, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
My mum STILL enjoys having an electric washer rather than having to get out the car to do it.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: ColinMarr on 15 February, 2018, 06:29:41 PM
Who said anything about getting out of the car to do it? Using a squeezy bottle with an angled spout it was quite easy to spray the screen round the driver's open window while on the move - just a bit draughty!


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Parisien on 18 February, 2018, 01:11:58 PM
Went for £6300, did anyone view or know who was the lucky winner (as ebay describe the buyers in their auctions)?

P


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: tzf60 on 19 February, 2018, 09:07:23 AM
Hi Frank!
I was watching, out of curiosity. I noticed that the highest bidder upped his final bid in the dying seconds. Why? Hmmmm.....!!!
 
Best regards,
Tim


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: Parisien on 19 February, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Hi Frank!
I was watching, out of curiosity. I noticed that the highest bidder upped his final bid in the dying seconds. Why? Hmmmm.....!!!
 
Best regards,
Tim

Hi Tim, there are programmes you can use to place a final bid above everyone else's, or place 2/3 bids up to your max, usually works, can only assume some one went and viewed and was quite taken by it!

P


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: frankxhv773t on 19 February, 2018, 11:40:25 AM
If you bid on something it invites you to put in your maximum bid. It won't actually log that maximum, just one bid above the next highest bid. The winner of this auction might have put in a maximum bid of £5,000 and someone else bid £3,595 in the dying moments of the auction. E-bay will then immediately counter with a bid of £3,600 and the £3,595 bidder is out of time to up their bid. If you are serious about winning something you put in the maximum you can sensibly pay and leave e-bay to it. It also saves you from getting carried away and bidding far too much, as I know to my cost!


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: tzf60 on 20 February, 2018, 12:01:26 PM
Am well aware of the bidding tools, but in this case I don't think there was a counterbid. The final 'buyer' had the highest bid at 5,500 then upped his bid to 6,300 with seconds to go. I could be wrong, but.....
 
Tim


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 20 February, 2018, 12:56:17 PM
sounds like a snipe tool to me.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: frankxhv773t on 20 February, 2018, 07:40:05 PM
I was following this post with a friend who does a lot of e-baying. He said snipe tools don't have much point since you were able to register a maximum bid without the system placing more than one bid above the next highest bidder. Certainly I have won things for far less than my maximum bid.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: JohnMillham on 22 February, 2018, 05:23:54 PM
Sniping certainly does work. They only put your bid in at the end of the auction, so others have no time to put another bid in. If you put your maximum bid directly into eBay, it will be used immediately so others have plenty of time to respond.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: frankxhv773t on 22 February, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
It sounds like I need to ignore my friend and get a snipe tool.


Title: Re: Aprilia
Post by: lancialulu on 22 February, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
It sounds like I need to ignore my friend and get a snipe tool.

correct!