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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: MartynT on 19 July, 2023, 03:36:38 PM



Title: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: MartynT on 19 July, 2023, 03:36:38 PM
Hi All,

I think I know the answer to this but just checking.  The previous owner of my S2 1600HF used to use the above.  Is this the accepted norm for for a 1972 1600HF?

Regards,
Martyn.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: lancialulu on 19 July, 2023, 04:09:19 PM
1600 HF had hardened valve seats. So really no additive to protect the seat is required. Octane booster and perhaps ethanol protection should be considered.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: MartynT on 19 July, 2023, 05:03:19 PM
That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?

Cheers, Martyn.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: davidwheeler on 20 July, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
Agreed, no lead substitute needed but get high octane petrol from e.g. Sainsbury or Tesco.    Suits mine fine.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: lancialulu on 20 July, 2023, 02:50:41 PM
Agreed, no lead substitute needed but get high octane petrol from e.g. Sainsbury or Tesco.    Suits mine fine.
Or Esso Supreme nearly as cheap and reportedly 0 E even though it is obliged to put E5 on it (If I am out of date please say!).


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: Richard Fridd on 20 July, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Did I read Esso are labelling fuel as E10 some time soon.

  Richard


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: Neil on 20 July, 2023, 05:15:19 PM
The Esso E5 that has zero ethanol currently, it has been reported will actually contain 5% from September, still higher octane rating then E10.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: chriswgawne on 21 July, 2023, 08:28:01 AM
Yes, from September there will be ethanol in ESSO fuel. This presumably is connected with the new underground pipeline from Southampton to Heathrow which is just coming onstream.
I will still stay with ESSO 99 Octane though as it seems to give good economy and smooth running ( and I get 6p per litre discount through the Porsche Owners Club!).
Chris


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: Neil on 21 July, 2023, 08:57:17 AM
I wonder if the LMC could get a discount, current price locally is £1.69 a litre!


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: andyps on 25 July, 2023, 09:28:52 PM
That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?

Cheers, Martyn.

I use Millers VSPe if I don't manage to fill up with either Shell of Esso 99 Octane fuel.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 26 July, 2023, 11:14:37 AM
That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?

Cheers, Martyn.

I use Millers VSPe if I don't manage to fill up with either Shell of Esso 99 Octane fuel.

Me too, but it didn't prevent an episode of very rough running in my Beta on a very hot day at the end of June. Ran fine again after a dose of Super. I'd generally just used normal E5 and rarely bothered with Super until normal fuel was upped to E10.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: Paul Greenway on 06 August, 2023, 01:05:44 PM

Since my Sport 1600 had it's mishap on the M6 on the way back from the GNW in April, I have reverted back to a cap full of Redex and Shell V-power fuel only every half tank and 1,000 miles + later it's never missed a beat.


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: roddy on 07 August, 2023, 11:48:32 AM
I still continue to use a lead substitute additive in Fulvias. It may be relevant to remember about the cushioning effect of a lead deposit on valve seats. Do not forget that 1600cc engines, in particular, can be susceptible to 'dropping a valve', with dire consequences.

Regards -


Title: Re: Redex Lead Replacement
Post by: Scott on 07 August, 2023, 02:37:05 PM
I have a Fulvia 1300 (S2) and have only ever used Castrol Valvemaster Plus in my long ownership.

I guess specific product doesn't matter as much as said product doing its job of preventing valve seat recession but if anyone knows better please say! I do remember reading a long time ago the main lookout was not mixing additives that use different elements for their protection approach but that may now be redundant advice.