Lancia Motor Club

Hi folks.

Have booked le Shuttle for a two night trip to Bruges between Xmas and New Yr.

I'm no stranger to motoring abroad but wonder what old car specific items I need to consider? I've a '76 1.3 Fulvia in what appears to be good condition. I've probably driven a couple of thousand miles since I've had it.

Insurance, breakdown cover (might be included in Hagerty insurance), log book, haven't got an MOT.....

What else?

I would advise an MOT….. Also check out Ulez equivalent restrictions in European towns. Warning triangle, bulb set and UK sticker….

In France you are also supposed to carry a breathalyser and a hi vis gilet.

I'll look into the low emissions rules for France and Belgium. I didn't have any Critair sticker this summer when I rode through France twice and didn't seem to need it as I wasn't in large cities.

MOT is a good idea.

I've got a high viz and triangle in the car. Also tow rope and jump leads.

I'll take a few tools. Don't think a breathalyser is required anymore.

The breathalyser law never came to fruition, due to the minister promoting it had a vested interest in a manufacturer of the testing kits !!

Tow ropes are illegal, you need a rigid towing bar.

Basically, having resided in France for over 10 years, the law is only upheld when or if it suits them, kind of lax, which suits some.

Bonne vacance.

You cannot get a critair sticker for Fulvia or any car older than around 20-25 years, so its basically the lowest category. Ulez is interpreted by individual towns and cities and varies from country to country. If you have a hotel in a historic area of certain cities you have rights to drive to and from…..

A few spare replacement in line fuel filters may come in handy if ones car has been subject to long term storage where the fuel tank can rust gently inside providing very fine junk that will block filters etc after some long and spirited driving….

You should be covered by Hagerty, but as I haven't been abroad lately I'm not sure,.
I've found the most important things to take are your mobile phone, your recovery insurance details, Set of points if needed, and if you don't have hazard lights, a couple of magnetic warning  hazard lights to place in a visible position, and don't forget a torch.
Brian
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I did a big European trip this summer and nearly got caught out because I did not have an MOT. A week before departure I checked the small print of my breakdown insurance and discovered that a vaild MOT was required. Luckily it passed with flying colours. Check your small print.

Thanks all.

Passed its MOT on Friday, finished the hazard lights today, UK sticker attached, Hagerty confirmed insurance cover for Europe is still fully comp and RAC cover is included. Need to check what RAC cover it is though....

Which company are you with for breakdown insurance?

In my standard Insurance Product Information Document LV/Britannia says: “Vehicles must have a valid MOT and be taxed if required by law”

However, in their general blurb they say they don’t cover: A car that's not roadworthy or is without valid road tax or an MOT

Best to get an answer in writing, although my documents indicate that an MOT isn't required.

I'm insured by Hagerty and they confirmed that RAC European cover is in place. I don't yet know if it's the equivalent of AA 5 - star I have for my bike.

They brought my lambda home from Turin.    Took a while though.

"They brought my lambda home from Turin". 
Sounds like there is a story there!

Let's hope I can bring my Fulvia home without assistance!

Bit late reading this one.
For me, number 1 is a Smartphone followed by breakdown cover and then in the boot fan belt(s) , points, fuel filter (only if there is any doubt about the condition of the tank) , fuel pipe, fuses, bulbs, water, oil, brake fluid and windscreen washer fluid with possibly a spare wiper blade in winter. Assuming you have a 'travelling' tool kit ensure you have some wire ( strong enough to replace an exhaust bracket say. . Beyond that there is a rule that says that if for example you carry a spare dynamo, your dynamo will NEVER play up when you are away.
Bon voyage.
Chris

As Chris says be prepared, and have a good checkover before you go, and chances are  if youve got it, your unlikey to need it!.
No doubt as many others have, I've been prepared/lucky, or whatever you like to call it, over the last 20 years I've  driven many miles on the Continent, and the worst that has happened was a puncture in Portugal when I hit a pot hole, 5 up on the way to a dinner.
A few more problems  at home, but I've only come home once on the back of an AA wagon, after blowing a recently replaced head gasket .
Brian
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I tend to carry some long cable ties. They take up virtually no space and the heavier duty ones have saved me from split exhaust rubbers and dropped exhaust pipe on a number of occasions.

Just got back from a quick jaunt to Bruges myself (although not in my Fulvia).

It's only about a 90 minute drive from Calais to Bruges along the A16 and E40; sparse traffic and good lane discipline make this an easy drive. Just ensure you know you kph to mph conversion as there are a couple of speed cameras nearer the Calais end although they are well advertised (they reduce speed at busier junctions to 90 ... which is about 56).

I'm a big fan of Le Shuttle although haven't used it for a few years what with lockdown etc.
The main change I noticed caused by Brexit is the extra queueing as there are now two passport checks at each end by the English and French authorities. This means sitting around with your engine idling / stop-start traffic as there are only a few booths to accommodate all the travellers. So the main thing I'd check is you're happy with your cooling system; fan operates okay (although chilly winter weather should ease issues).
And leave plenty of time because it must have taken about four times longer to get through than I've been used to.

Also new for me was the advisement by my hotel to complete the following:
https://www.brugge.be/doorendoor/autoluw-gebied/hotels-parking (https://www.brugge.be/doorendoor/autoluw-gebied/hotels-parking)
This is effectively a permit to drive a car in the historic areas ... because you need to to get to your hotel. Presumably you're staying in Bruges you'd also be obliged to do this so if you haven't been notified by your accommodation then best check as would be a shame to get a fine.

Have a lovely time. It is a truly magic place to be around Christmas as they really go to town on the twinkly lights and festive cheer.  :)

No. I for me is a spare set of keys, the ignition key in the glove box and the door key taped inside a light lens.
No. 2 is duct tape/metalic speed tape

Looks like you got back in time as the French have just gone on strike and no trains running....

Mot - check
Log book/ insurance/ other docs - check
Hi viz - check
Spare keys - check
Breakdown and relay cover - check
Spare engine and gearbox assembly - check
Spare lamps - check
A few tools/zip ties/ tape - check
Mobile phone - check
70's playlist on Spotify - check

Just need to follow the link for access to the old town.

Thanks all.


Just need Le Shuttle to not be on strike!

Oh my gosh that was a close shave.  :o Got back yesterday afternoon.
These random strikes are miserable. :(

Hope the trip goes well Howard. The Wintergloed will still be going. Follow the blue lights round the city. And watch out for those lethal strength beers.  ;) ;D

A spare engine and gearbox? I think you are pulling our legs!  8)

I forgot the spare keys on my list.
We are off to Le Shuttle this morning on our way to Italy for Xmas & New Year and I have put a small twin cylinder 12v compressor in the car as well. We are in Jacky's hot Golf R which does have a spare tyre but one never knows....
I have a small leather 'travelling toolkit' which  I made up 15 or 20 years ago ( actually a DeWalt leather toolbag which looks a little like a motorcycle toolbag ) which has all the items for an Aurelia in it as listed earlier. There is a Black & Decker toolroll with metric sckets & spanners in it as well with a torch and 12v tester and is easily transferred from car to car. The only other item which occurred to me in the light of our big drive which is tomorrow from Reims to the Veneto on a day with few hours of daylight is a lithium battery power pack. I have a big one and a smaller one - I will put the smaller one in the boot.
Chris

Question.
Do we enjoying driving our Lancias for the adventure of the journey, or purely as a means of getting to our destination? I know my answer.
15 years ago one of our sons got a 1967 VW splitscreen camper for his 21st. He set off with 3 mates before the bus could be given a good check over. He broke down at least once in 7 different European countries. Instead of ruining the trip it did completely the reverse. He said within 10 minutes help would appear from nowhere and either fisxit or say where it could be fixed. He made a lot of friends on that trip. The bus is still in the my garage and now is 99.99% reliable. Not so much fun to drive now!

A really good head torch, such as one of the offerings from Olight, is essential. After all, if you can't see something properly you are unlikely to be able to fix it.

Bon voyage Chris!

Taking an old car on a trip is definitely for the adventure. Just as travelling on my motorbike is for the adventure. We could take the Hyundai or my Transit....but what would be the fun in that?

Super trip so far. On our way home now. Dunkerque, Verney, Bruges, Tyne Cot, Ypres and St. Georges Church.

And a whacking great chip in the screen from a stone thrown up.

Not easy to share pics here so I'll just share a couple.

Great pic safe trip home.